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'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

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  • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Out of the loop, is it a AAA game drama?

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    inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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    Just your typical Randy drama you get at every BL release.

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

      Is this not the third tabloid style headline here about essentially the same thing?

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      tidderuuf@lemmy.world
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      It’s 100% an astroturfing campaign. Doesn’t matter if it looks good or bad, it’s still getting awareness out there about the game which generates clicks and probably makes more money than the game itself.

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      • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Out of the loop, is it a AAA game drama?

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        givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        Apparently the graphics are basically the same as 3, but performance is dog shit on even the best hardware and crashes are unavoidable.

        When people complained, he said they need to use AI fake frame and upscale from 720. Which still wasn’t good performance.

        It might get fixed later in updates. But this guy is handling so badly he might legitimately be mentally unwell. It’s at the point it’s weird he still has a job

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        • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          Out of the loop, is it a AAA game drama?

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          soupbrick@pawb.social
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          BL4 is running horribly, even on higher end PCs. I have a 4090 and a decent processor, but only getting 80FPS max with a good few settings on low or off and AI frame gen on (I would rather not, but performance is just that bad).

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          • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world

            Just your typical Randy drama you get at every BL release.

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            duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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            At least he didn’t punch anyone this time.

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            • N nutinbutnet@hilariouschaos.com

              I accepted and just didn’t buy it to begin with.

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              screen_shatter@lemmy.world
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              After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4

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              • D duamerthrax@lemmy.world

                At least he didn’t punch anyone this time.

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                Godort
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                Nor did he leave a USB stick containing sensitive design data and camgirl porn at a Medieval Times

                Things are looking up for ol’ Randy

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                • S screen_shatter@lemmy.world

                  After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4

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                  ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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                  It’s hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it’s a co-op shooter with basically no competition.

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                  • S soupbrick@pawb.social

                    BL4 is running horribly, even on higher end PCs. I have a 4090 and a decent processor, but only getting 80FPS max with a good few settings on low or off and AI frame gen on (I would rather not, but performance is just that bad).

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                    iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
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                    Holy shit you get 80 fps with frame gen on with a 4090? What resolution?

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                    • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                      It’s hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it’s a co-op shooter with basically no competition.

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                      screen_shatter@lemmy.world
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                      Damn I had to look that up cause it seemed unbelievable. I am shocked it reviewed that well. It just seemed so awful to me.

                      Am I so out of touch?? No, the children are.

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                      • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

                        Holy shit you get 80 fps with frame gen on with a 4090? What resolution?

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                        soupbrick@pawb.social
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                        2560 × 1440

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                        • S soupbrick@pawb.social

                          2560 × 1440

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                          iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
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                          Holy fuck that is so much worse than I realized it was. What a joke.

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                            Rayquetzalcoatl
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                            I have come to accept that this is a PR campaign to plaster the name everywhere all over social media and let it worm its way into currently pissed off gamers’ heads for a few months down the line when they’ve calmed down and inevitably buy the fucking thing.

                            Pitchford is a slimeball. Rarely has a man who is allegedly not an insurance or used-car salesman given off such nakedly scummy vibes.

                            We need to stop giving free publicity to this little marketing man, and to this poorly optimised, expensive game.

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                              captainblinky@lemmy.myserv.one
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                              Welp, that’s what I did. Got my money back. I’ll buy it when it’s $19.99.

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                              • S screen_shatter@lemmy.world

                                After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4

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                                captainblinky@lemmy.myserv.one
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                                I honestly don’t know what this “trainwreck” talk is. BL3 was passable. I didn’t like the antagonists, but the game played fine if purples dropped way too much and the new guns weren’t great. People make it seem like it was the Worst Game Ever and I don’t get it. The pre-sequel was hot garbage, but 3 was fine.

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                                • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

                                  Apparently the graphics are basically the same as 3, but performance is dog shit on even the best hardware and crashes are unavoidable.

                                  When people complained, he said they need to use AI fake frame and upscale from 720. Which still wasn’t good performance.

                                  It might get fixed later in updates. But this guy is handling so badly he might legitimately be mentally unwell. It’s at the point it’s weird he still has a job

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                                  jessica@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  It’s got Denuvo running

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                                    LiveLM
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                                    Gearbox was been scummy for a while now. Customers can learn to stop giving them money or can keep putting up with this.

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                                    • C captainblinky@lemmy.myserv.one

                                      Welp, that’s what I did. Got my money back. I’ll buy it when it’s $19.99.

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                                      peruvian_skies@sh.itjust.works
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                                      You should get it for free elsewhere. Don’t give this asshole your money.

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                                      • C captainblinky@lemmy.myserv.one

                                        Welp, that’s what I did. Got my money back. I’ll buy it when it’s $19.99.

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                                        TheLowestStone
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                                        I was going to do that originally but now I’m never playing it.

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                                        • S soupbrick@pawb.social

                                          BL4 is running horribly, even on higher end PCs. I have a 4090 and a decent processor, but only getting 80FPS max with a good few settings on low or off and AI frame gen on (I would rather not, but performance is just that bad).

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                                          spamfajitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          What’s crazy is how inconsistent the problems seem to be. I’ve got a 4080 Super and a decent processor, and I’m getting 120-140fps with most settings as high as they can go with frame gen on at 1440p. Only crashed once in about 40 hours of gameplay.

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