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  3. Wow. From a newsletter written by people who help authors (mostly non-fiction) market their books: "We spent over $50,000 on Instagram Influencers last year and it resulted in (I'm not kidding) less than 50 books sold."#Writing #WritingCommunity

Wow. From a newsletter written by people who help authors (mostly non-fiction) market their books: "We spent over $50,000 on Instagram Influencers last year and it resulted in (I'm not kidding) less than 50 books sold."#Writing #WritingCommunity

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  • D Georgiana Brummell

    @alan Not only do I not welcome that neologism, I am disgusted by it. It seems that everyone thinks using obscenities in public, with anyone, and at any time, is perfectly acceptable. It's one thing with friends, partners, family, etc. and quite another online, during interviews, on clothing, etc. This just goes to show a lack of education. Surely, a better would could have been created to describe the same thing.

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    @dandylover1 Ah, there we have a chasm. I reject the idea that a word should be considered inferior merely by convention. The word either fits or it doesn't. Enfecalmatterification just doesn't cut it.

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    • talulah brown (mandy, she/her)M talulah brown (mandy, she/her)

      @alan @LJ As a small creative, I feel vindicated by this. I'm not spending zippy on influencers, bots, etc. and my followers list is small. And yet I still try.

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      @madgeface I'm not sure I'd use vindicated, but yes, the concept of having sufficient disposable cash to spend on even trying something like that is foreign, and even if I was rolling in excess cash, I don't think I would have tried that tactic. I'm far more interested in finding people who appreciate what I do in an organic way. If that somehow explodes into wild success, I'd rather feel that I'd earned it, rather than purchased it.

      @LJ

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        @madgeface I'm not sure I'd use vindicated, but yes, the concept of having sufficient disposable cash to spend on even trying something like that is foreign, and even if I was rolling in excess cash, I don't think I would have tried that tactic. I'm far more interested in finding people who appreciate what I do in an organic way. If that somehow explodes into wild success, I'd rather feel that I'd earned it, rather than purchased it.

        @LJ

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        @madgeface @LJ

        Dang and I forgot to add "subscribe to my newsletter" there. ๐Ÿ˜‚ See, I struggle with even low-level organic growth!

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          @dandylover1 I do believe it is highly dependent on the author. I've read early works where the author was clearly getting paid by the word. I've read modern works where authors have demonstrated the extensive scope of their vocabularies sole for the purpose of demonstrating the extensive scope of their vocabularies. And then in both periods I have read works where every single word seems to have been honed to fit into an eloquent whole.

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          Georgiana Brummell
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          @alan Yes. There were good and bad writers, verbose and laconic ones in every century. It just seems that, for the most part, writing has become simpler from the twentieth century onward, and while there are still some decent writers today, there are also those who make me lament the decline of education. Sadly, I constantly see this online, and while they are mostly not professionals, it is very frustrating.

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            @madgeface @LJ

            Dang and I forgot to add "subscribe to my newsletter" there. ๐Ÿ˜‚ See, I struggle with even low-level organic growth!

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            @LJ @alan Hahaha! I will probably subscribe because reasons. TY for mentioning it!

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            • talulah brown (mandy, she/her)M talulah brown (mandy, she/her)

              @LJ @alan Hahaha! I will probably subscribe because reasons. TY for mentioning it!

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              @alan Subscribed. Well, to your toots, anyway.

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              • D Georgiana Brummell

                @alan Yes. There were good and bad writers, verbose and laconic ones in every century. It just seems that, for the most part, writing has become simpler from the twentieth century onward, and while there are still some decent writers today, there are also those who make me lament the decline of education. Sadly, I constantly see this online, and while they are mostly not professionals, it is very frustrating.

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                @dandylover1 We agree on that! I have long lamented how we have allowed commercial interests to turn the educational system into factories who produce worker/consumers. Were I in charge, no student could escape basic education without the ability to use logic, recognize and rebut fallacious arguments, and engage in critical thinking. Everything else would be a welcome bonus.

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                • talulah brown (mandy, she/her)M talulah brown (mandy, she/her)

                  @LJ @alan Hahaha! I will probably subscribe because reasons. TY for mentioning it!

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                  @madgeface Check out https://getshelflife.com/ His focus is on non-fiction, and mostly business-related stuff, but he has the occasional tip/insight that applies to fiction, and probably to technical books too.

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                  • talulah brown (mandy, she/her)M talulah brown (mandy, she/her)

                    @alan Subscribed. Well, to your toots, anyway.

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                    @madgeface Everything eventually winds up on either my nerd/rant blog or my artist/writer blog anyway, so in defiance of all marketing wisdom I just let people get those through RSS (although often delayed, there has to be some perk for subscribing!)

                    I use perk loosely.

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                      @madgeface Everything eventually winds up on either my nerd/rant blog or my artist/writer blog anyway, so in defiance of all marketing wisdom I just let people get those through RSS (although often delayed, there has to be some perk for subscribing!)

                      I use perk loosely.

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                      @alan I 'd like to be the rational me who checked feedly daily in 2018ish and then again in the (can't believe I'm typing this) early 20s when I tried to make it a personal think again but it didn't work out. I'll try again, eventually.

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                      • talulah brown (mandy, she/her)M talulah brown (mandy, she/her)

                        @alan I 'd like to be the rational me who checked feedly daily in 2018ish and then again in the (can't believe I'm typing this) early 20s when I tried to make it a personal think again but it didn't work out. I'll try again, eventually.

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                        @madgeface I just add the feeds to my email client (Thunderbird). My understanding is that the equivalent from Microsoft supports this as well, and I saw some convoluted way to do it in GMail.

                        I have Tbird set up with a unified folder of tagged and unread messages, so I just pick them off like I do with newsletters. Less than 20 in all, so it's manageable (and when it isn't, I go to the feed's folder and "mark all as read"... I'm a heretic.)

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                          @madgeface I just add the feeds to my email client (Thunderbird). My understanding is that the equivalent from Microsoft supports this as well, and I saw some convoluted way to do it in GMail.

                          I have Tbird set up with a unified folder of tagged and unread messages, so I just pick them off like I do with newsletters. Less than 20 in all, so it's manageable (and when it isn't, I go to the feed's folder and "mark all as read"... I'm a heretic.)

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                          @alan While you're a heretic there, I've drawn my skirts up (because somehow there are multiple skirts) as if to flee at the mention of Microsoft, having recently done battle with Word and lost. I would rather not cross the streams like that. Although I'm now actually and IRL subscribed to your Substack.

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                          • talulah brown (mandy, she/her)M talulah brown (mandy, she/her)

                            @alan While you're a heretic there, I've drawn my skirts up (because somehow there are multiple skirts) as if to flee at the mention of Microsoft, having recently done battle with Word and lost. I would rather not cross the streams like that. Although I'm now actually and IRL subscribed to your Substack.

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                            @madgeface I have a detailed plan to swap Windows out for Linux in the near future. I've been neglecting Substack a bit, as they seem to be burying people who don't charge for subscriptions, thus limiting the network effects that had attracted me to the platform.

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