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'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

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  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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    katana314@lemmy.world
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    Countdown to him getting fired in 3…2…3…4…8…49…

    Because companies ultimately seem to love leaders that are toxic these days.

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    • InfiniteGlitchM InfiniteGlitch

      Never bought any of the Borderlands games and probably never will.

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      farmtaco@lemmy.world
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      weird flex but okay

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      • Q quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works

        2 was good because of the Handsome Hack commentary.

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        thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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        I think that was the one that started in an ice zone, if I remember correctly? I literally couldn’t get past it because I find that aesthetic quite boring…

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        • DacoTacoD DacoTaco

          I present to you bill nye as a counter argument

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          itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works
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          Honestly, I think he might actually fall into the category of cares more about appearing smart than being smart. Not to say he’s dumb, but I do get the sense the reputation is very important to him

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          • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

            That doesn’t really seem to contradict the other person’s claim that much? In fact like your said if just a few other things are running on that person’s pc and eating some resources, their claim seems super believable in the context of what you just said so I’m not sure what your point is.

            A reviewer/tester is going to be benchmarking in a best case scenario environment. Real people using their real computers will be experiencing a huge variety of other environments. Different temps, hardware settings, programs running, etc. None of that context excuses the performance, and makes that person’s performance claim believable.

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            Goodeye8
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            #82

            And Silksong will also run like shit if I run an AI model in the background that’s hogging all resources, but if I said Silksong ran like shit on a 4090 you’d say I’m full of shit. But with Borderlands 4 it would be okay to say that because it fits your biases?

            My point is you can’t take such statements at face value. They need to be looked at critically because who knows what the person is doing with their machine or what kind of information they’re omitting. Maybe the other person has a CPU bottleneck because they threw a 4090 together with a Ryzen 7 2700X? If you take them at face value you’re just reflecting your own biases which means you call it bullshit if it doesn’t fit your bias or you agree with it when it does fit your bias.

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            • O omegaman@lemmings.world

              Bowties are fine for formal (social) occasions like weddings and parties. Wearing them around every day is weird. Wearing them to work is (generally) weird.

              Committing to wearing them everywhere and STILL buying pre-tied ones and not learning how to tie them yourself all while being a mega douche is cringe af.

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              sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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              Yeah, learn to tie them if you’re going to make it part of your personality.

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              • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                tio_bira@lemmy.world
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                Considering i didn’t bother to buy anything borderlands related since Borderlands 2, it will keep preety muchbthe same for me

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                • F farmtaco@lemmy.world

                  weird flex but okay

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                  InfiniteGlitch
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                  That’s okay, I love being weird.

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                  • G Goodeye8

                    And Silksong will also run like shit if I run an AI model in the background that’s hogging all resources, but if I said Silksong ran like shit on a 4090 you’d say I’m full of shit. But with Borderlands 4 it would be okay to say that because it fits your biases?

                    My point is you can’t take such statements at face value. They need to be looked at critically because who knows what the person is doing with their machine or what kind of information they’re omitting. Maybe the other person has a CPU bottleneck because they threw a 4090 together with a Ryzen 7 2700X? If you take them at face value you’re just reflecting your own biases which means you call it bullshit if it doesn’t fit your bias or you agree with it when it does fit your bias.

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                    iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
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                    #86

                    But my guy, you provided context which shows that Borderlands 4 does run like shit on a 4090 in a lab environment.

                    Borderlands 3 on highest settings with a 4090, a worse cpu, at 1440p ran at 210 average fps.

                    You telling me that Borderlands 4 looks good enough compared to 3 to explain a 143 fps drop?

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                    • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR regrettable_incident@lemmy.world

                      He can deep-throat my dad’s days-dead dog’s decaying dong.

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                      Kernal64
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                      Damn, dude! 😂

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                      • K katana314@lemmy.world

                        Countdown to him getting fired in 3…2…3…4…8…49…

                        Because companies ultimately seem to love leaders that are toxic these days.

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                        VindictiveJudge
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                        I could be wrong, but doesn’t he own the company?

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                        • T thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works

                          I think that was the one that started in an ice zone, if I remember correctly? I literally couldn’t get past it because I find that aesthetic quite boring…

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                          ArxCyberwolf
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                          The ice zone (Southern Shelf) is only the very beginning of the game, you reach more interesting areas after defeating the first major boss, Captain Flynt.

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                          • M massi1008@lemmy.world

                            Hard disagree.

                            Pre-Sequel, 3 and Wonderlands have all been great games that I had lots of fun with. I also know I’m going to have upwards of 100 hours of fun with 4. That’s what makes this whole story even more frustrating…

                            But I’m a patient gamer. I played the previous BL games years after they came out. I’ll do the same for this one - not because I can’t afford a 60€ price tag but because articles like this.
                            Sad.

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                            thirdconsul@lemmy.ml
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                            Wonderlands

                            Interesting. To me that game was just the worst:

                            Unskippable, long, very very very long, boring dialogues.

                            Shitty weapons, but fantasy. E.g. no oomph feeling when you hit the enemy with a large ice explosions. It just scraps a little of their health.

                            Boring, unchallenging fights.

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                            • M massi1008@lemmy.world

                              Hard disagree.

                              Pre-Sequel, 3 and Wonderlands have all been great games that I had lots of fun with. I also know I’m going to have upwards of 100 hours of fun with 4. That’s what makes this whole story even more frustrating…

                              But I’m a patient gamer. I played the previous BL games years after they came out. I’ll do the same for this one - not because I can’t afford a 60€ price tag but because articles like this.
                              Sad.

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                              twintitans@lemmy.world
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                              BL4 is awesome so far. Works fantastic on PS5. I hope next time they just skip releasing a PC version at all and use the extra resources for the other versions like GTA.

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                              • S sunsofold@lemmings.world

                                I haven’t played 4, but I played 1, 2, and a bit of the presequel or whatever it was called. They were essentially all the same game. Run, shoot, run, shoot, hear vaguely off-color joke, run, shoot. Is there any particular reason to bother with an overpriced remake of the same old game? Is there a reason for worrying about 4KUHD textures on a game where the aesthetic is cartoony? If you’re a 9 year old who’s never played, and it’s all on mom’s dime, I could see being tricked into buying it by the advertisers, but why is anyone else excited about it?

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                                twintitans@lemmy.world
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                                30 seconds of fun repeated, the golden rule. The games fun as fuck.

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                                • VindictiveJudgeV VindictiveJudge

                                  I could be wrong, but doesn’t he own the company?

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                                  skunkworkz@lemmy.world
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                                  He wasn’t the only founder and Embracer bought them in 2021. Later TakeTwo acquired the studio when Embracer had to restructure. They operate under 2k now so he can most surely be fired.

                                  Also probably why he is even more of a cocky cunt nowadays. He already cashed out.

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                                  • L lfrith@lemmy.ca

                                    Those people buy games regardless. But this feels like a personal challenge of being called out. Like the face popping out and going “yeah I knew you couldn’t resist bitch”. Usually there isn’t that psychological push back being put out there. It’s not needed.

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                                    Rayquetzalcoatl
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                                    We’ll see how it comes out in the sales figures, I suppose! I would like to believe you’re right but I just have absolutely not a jot of faith that people will stick to their outrage. 😂

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                                    • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                                      It’s hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it’s a co-op shooter with basically no competition.

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                                      nima@leminal.space
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                                      bl3 is a fine game. its just critics of it are so very vocal that nobody feels like saying they like it.

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                                      • T tio_bira@lemmy.world

                                        Considering i didn’t bother to buy anything borderlands related since Borderlands 2, it will keep preety muchbthe same for me

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                                        yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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                                        Same, got 1&2 on a humble bundle. I remember one running great, and 2 bearable on a 1gb netbook att. Cell shaded games shouldn’t be this resource intensive!

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                                        • I itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works

                                          Honestly, I think he might actually fall into the category of cares more about appearing smart than being smart. Not to say he’s dumb, but I do get the sense the reputation is very important to him

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                                          RobotsLeftHand
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                                          Celebrities with distinct looks almost by definition have to be exceptions to this discussion. Wearing a giant clock necklace to work would absolutely be weird unless it were Flavor Flav.

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