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The state of affairs for Russian oil refineries - which ones are on fire - which ones are next?

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    Ukrainians working hard on cutting global emissions, what is the rest of the world doing?

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    camerondev@programming.dev
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    I dunno that burning an oilfield is really the best solution to cutting emissions…

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      fullsquare@awful.systems
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      that tally is wildly optimistic. last time i’ve checked, one of latest strikes, the one on kirishi, disabled some 30% of capacity (it’s too big of facility to have only one oil processing stream, so there are two in parallel. the one disabled had a bit under half of capacity, and the other one is using all slack capacity it had) and only for a month or two. some of strikes listed are from year+ ago

      even with that, some 20% of oil processing capability is disabled (or was at some point), and further decrease would mean that decline in oil extraction is needed because export of crude and storage can’t keep up. which means that some oil wells would get disused, and if these are down for some time they can’t get restarted easily

      update: salavat refinery was hit like, 2h ago

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        gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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        This sparks joy 🥰

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        • C camerondev@programming.dev

          I dunno that burning an oilfield is really the best solution to cutting emissions…

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          ladicius@lemmy.world
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          Long term it is.

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            that tally is wildly optimistic. last time i’ve checked, one of latest strikes, the one on kirishi, disabled some 30% of capacity (it’s too big of facility to have only one oil processing stream, so there are two in parallel. the one disabled had a bit under half of capacity, and the other one is using all slack capacity it had) and only for a month or two. some of strikes listed are from year+ ago

            even with that, some 20% of oil processing capability is disabled (or was at some point), and further decrease would mean that decline in oil extraction is needed because export of crude and storage can’t keep up. which means that some oil wells would get disused, and if these are down for some time they can’t get restarted easily

            update: salavat refinery was hit like, 2h ago

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            blueworld
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            Great context addition to the graphic!

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              buffalox@lemmy.world
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              Which ones are next?

              All of them. 😋

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                I dunno that burning an oilfield is really the best solution to cutting emissions…

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                buffalox@lemmy.world
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                It’s not the oil fields, but refineries and pump stations for the pipes.

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                  Wildmimic
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                  Why is the Orsk Refinery burning in blue?

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                    Why is the Orsk Refinery burning in blue?

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                    Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
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                    It’s flooded due to a poorly constructed dam collapsing
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orsk_Dam_collapse

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                    • C camerondev@programming.dev

                      I dunno that burning an oilfield is really the best solution to cutting emissions…

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                      mrmakabar@slrpnk.net
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                      These are refineries not oil fields. They turn oil into gasoline, diesel, kerosene and much much more.

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                        x00z@lemmy.world
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                        This brings joy to my heart.

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                          I dunno that burning an oilfield is really the best solution to cutting emissions…

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                          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                          While it’s burning, it emits a bit more, since the combustion of whatever’s in there is less complete. Then it stops.

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                          • fullsquare@awful.systemsF fullsquare@awful.systems

                            that tally is wildly optimistic. last time i’ve checked, one of latest strikes, the one on kirishi, disabled some 30% of capacity (it’s too big of facility to have only one oil processing stream, so there are two in parallel. the one disabled had a bit under half of capacity, and the other one is using all slack capacity it had) and only for a month or two. some of strikes listed are from year+ ago

                            even with that, some 20% of oil processing capability is disabled (or was at some point), and further decrease would mean that decline in oil extraction is needed because export of crude and storage can’t keep up. which means that some oil wells would get disused, and if these are down for some time they can’t get restarted easily

                            update: salavat refinery was hit like, 2h ago

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                            canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                            There is a little bit of fine print about that if you look closely.

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                              There is a little bit of fine print about that if you look closely.

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                              fullsquare@awful.systems
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                              yeah, that’s the wildly optimistic bit

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                                lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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                                The pro environment part of me: 😱

                                The pro Ukrainian part of me: 😂💥💥💥

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                                  Lol this is starting to look like their Black Sea fleet chart. Keep 'm coming UA!

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                                  lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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                                  Russian propaganda: That black sea fleet retreated to the groud of the ocean to take better positions there.

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