It’s a fantastic documentary; as an LA native, I recommend playing through the story to better understand our diverse culture of shallow rich folks, inner city gents, and meth-addled drug countrymen.

In fact, pirate it to truly honor my culture. Lol

Glad you’re getting upvoted for this. Every time I mention how outdated RDR2 felt at launch, I get downvoted. But it’s true. For a game about an outlaw, you sure have to follow a lot of rules to play the game as the developers intended.

Yeah for a “dynamic open world” it sure consists of a bunch of linear missions and rigged structure.

Thats a classic video and definitely one of the first I’ve seen outside of Zero Punctuation that has been honest about the GTA games.

Keep in mind that GTA V released in the PS3 - which is now considered a retro console.

Gotta love Steven Ogg.

for some reason.

Several reasons, really.

Man, I tried multiple times to get into RDR2. I really want to like it, and I love RDR. But my god that game feels like a job with all the small things you need to remember to do.

Man, even the gun system annoyed me. I’m fine with them having like 4 slots or whatever it was for weapons, but I remember so many times riding to a mission on my horse, selecting the guns I wanted to use and after like 50 feet Arthur would decide “welp, I’m not using these guns, better shove em back in my horse” leadong me to not having a gun ready at the start of a mission. I think that was the straw the broke the camels back for me, just hold the guns I selected Arthur.

I’ve literally purchased a Xbox series X for this game, moved to and moved back from south Florida and it’s still not out…I can imagine this is live up to expectations but I also can’t imagine it won’t live up to expectations…

Honestly they could have released single player DLC for V and made a load of money without having to even develop VI

As greedy as GTA V was with its multiplayer, Rockstar has a history of releasing a good single player base game before they start with that, and looking as GTA VI leaked map, I don’t see that changing now. It’ll definitely be nothing more than a single player experience for me though.

Plus, were might have to wait one or two years to play it on PC, especially on Linux, so there’s a lot of time for considerations…

Though it was a completely different game than what we’ve come to know as GTA V after the PC release, in terms of graphics and content. And even then I remember grabbing snacks to watch the loading screen…

The multi-player maybe. But they’ve consistently delivered excellent single-player experiences with their flagship titles. GTA 3, VC, SA, IV, and V were all amazing. RDR1 was spectacular, and RDR2 may be the most impressive game I’ve ever played.

At this point, I trust Tockstar to deliver a good single-player game. I don’t really expect much in the way of the quality DLC we got with GTAIV and RDR, but I think the base game will easily be enough for me to justify a purchase.

I’m still gonna wait and see, of course. They’re not getting a pre-order out of me.

I’d agree with everything about the previous games. However, I think they made 10 billion dollars off of GTA online and wouldn’t be surprised if they focus more on that and leave the single player to the wayside.

Meanwhile Skyrim came out the week my daughter was born, and she’s in high school now. We still don’t have a new elder scrolls

No… no that’s impossible… fuck. 14 years, huh? I remember it was 11/11/11 and there were ads for it on city buses, and I thought “wow i guess video games are mainstream now”

I’ve lived in the same GTA house longer than I’ve lived in any real home.

Coming up on 14 years for Skyrim.

They’ve both been propped up by pay-to-win bullshit online games that have diluted the formula. I remember when GTA V was new (ish) and while the controls took some getting used to, and some of the minigames were bullshit (Rockstar games have wonky controls), the game was fun as hell. Zero interest in the online stuff. It never appealed to me. I did try Elder Scrolls Online, and also Fallout 76. This online shit makes them money, it’s a surprise they’re even bothering with a GTA VI. The next GTA Online is really what they should be focused on (though I’ll always root for the single player games). After the last couple Fallouts and Starfield, I don’t even have any hope for Elder Scrolls VI. GTA VI at least looks like it might actually be good. But screw paying $100 for it.

I refuse to entertain the idea of PS3 being retro until at least next year, when it turns 20. Now you might say “okay then, GTA V also came out on Xbox 360, which turns 20 in about 2 months” to which I say… get off my lawn!

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For some reason this made me feel much older than knowing GAT V launched 11 years ago. I grew up with an NES.