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  3. The party of Germany's Chancellor Friedrich Merz, CDU, is projected to win the NRW municipal vote, with the far-right AfD making major gains.

The party of Germany's Chancellor Friedrich Merz, CDU, is projected to win the NRW municipal vote, with the far-right AfD making major gains.

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  • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

    @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff That the media is along for the ride is a major problem about which nothing is being done. A certain Silvio Berlusconi used his control of the media to paint the pictures he wanted. Same recipe has spread beyond Italy and itโ€™s pretty clear the #FarRight are very well coordinated.

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    @alex_p_roe
    Yep. It's really blatantly obvious once you start to see it. What frightens me is that everything seems so perfectly meshed.
    @GottaLaff

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    • GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บE GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

      @alex_p_roe
      Yep. It's really blatantly obvious once you start to see it. What frightens me is that everything seems so perfectly meshed.
      @GottaLaff

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      @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff And extremely well funded too. Very hard, if not impossible, to counter this kind of power. Seems politicians have been bought off or blind sided by what is happening too.

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      • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

        @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff And extremely well funded too. Very hard, if not impossible, to counter this kind of power. Seems politicians have been bought off or blind sided by what is happening too.

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        #8

        @alex_p_roe
        It takes a while to realize it's a huge steam roller coming at you. And once you realize, you have precious little time to work out a plan. Although I refuse to give up hope that it can be done.
        @GottaLaff

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        • GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บE GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

          @alex_p_roe
          It takes a while to realize it's a huge steam roller coming at you. And once you realize, you have precious little time to work out a plan. Although I refuse to give up hope that it can be done.
          @GottaLaff

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          @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Well, first youโ€™ve got to wake people up and politicians could do this though no longer through much of the media. And the message needs to be coordinated. Itโ€™d be good to back things up with facts but even they donโ€™t tend to work so well today.

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          • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

            @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Well, first youโ€™ve got to wake people up and politicians could do this though no longer through much of the media. And the message needs to be coordinated. Itโ€™d be good to back things up with facts but even they donโ€™t tend to work so well today.

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            @alex_p_roe
            Yes, that's what I mean by well-meshed. It's hard to drown out a few hundred megaphones blaring out a propaganda message in unison, especially with the way the opposition is (being kept) divided.
            @GottaLaff

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            • GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บE GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

              @alex_p_roe
              Yes, that's what I mean by well-meshed. It's hard to drown out a few hundred megaphones blaring out a propaganda message in unison, especially with the way the opposition is (being kept) divided.
              @GottaLaff

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              @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Well meshed because itโ€™s very well funded! Itโ€™s not easy to overcome so many megaphones. Nobody has managed it so far.

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              • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Well meshed because itโ€™s very well funded! Itโ€™s not easy to overcome so many megaphones. Nobody has managed it so far.

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                @alex_p_roe
                That's the whole point, isn't it? The stakeholders in this obscene scheme are already so rich that they control all the megaphones. And whoever manages opposition strong enough to be noticed is immediately crushed. Litigation against moguls of this caliber is, to all intents and purposes, impossible.
                @GottaLaff

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                  @alex_p_roe
                  That's the whole point, isn't it? The stakeholders in this obscene scheme are already so rich that they control all the megaphones. And whoever manages opposition strong enough to be noticed is immediately crushed. Litigation against moguls of this caliber is, to all intents and purposes, impossible.
                  @GottaLaff

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                  @alex_p_roe
                  Just saw this.
                  @GottaLaff

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                    @alex_p_roe
                    Just saw this.
                    @GottaLaff

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                    @alex_p_roe
                    Re. the media: complacent or complicit? More often than not the latter, I fear.
                    @GottaLaff

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                    • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                      We have fewer police on the roads
                      We have fewer doctors
                      We have very expensive dental care
                      We have to retire later
                      Hate is widespread
                      Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                      Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                      Food quality is falling
                      Energy costs are rising
                      Beaches and rivers are polluted
                      Weaker policing (uk)
                      Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                      The rich are getting richer
                      We now have โ€œworking poorโ€.
                      World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                      List update: Public transport quality has been eroded. National companies have been offshored thus reducing their benefit to local economies.
                      Trans people are being persecuted for no reason, as are #LGBTQ and others, for colour or whatever.
                      The media has become little more than a propaganda arm for the right and the rich.
                      - This list is not applicable to all nations yet but, please, keep voting for the right ๐Ÿ˜‰ #politics (3/3) #FarRight

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                      • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                        @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Iโ€™ve been compiling a list - not in order, feel free to add to it - it has a UK bias. Cc @ChrisMayLA6

                        Thanks to the political #right #neoliberalism and the #farright:
                        We can no longer afford kids
                        We no longer have stable employment
                        We have a polluted earth
                        University is too expensive for those who could benefit from it
                        Cars and motorbikes have become too expensive for most people
                        Housing has become too expensive more most people
                        Healthcare services are failingโ€ฆ (1/3)

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                        We have fewer police on the roads
                        We have fewer doctors
                        We have very expensive dental care
                        We have to retire later
                        Hate is widespread
                        Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                        Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                        Food quality is falling
                        Energy costs are rising
                        Beaches and rivers are polluted
                        Weaker policing (uk)
                        Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                        The rich are getting richer
                        We now have โ€œworking poorโ€.
                        World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                        • GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บE GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

                          @alex_p_roe
                          Re. the media: complacent or complicit? More often than not the latter, I fear.
                          @GottaLaff

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                          @Eetschrijver @GottaLaff Iโ€™ve been compiling a list - not in order, feel free to add to it - it has a UK bias. Cc @ChrisMayLA6

                          Thanks to the political #right #neoliberalism and the #farright:
                          We can no longer afford kids
                          We no longer have stable employment
                          We have a polluted earth
                          University is too expensive for those who could benefit from it
                          Cars and motorbikes have become too expensive for most people
                          Housing has become too expensive more most people
                          Healthcare services are failingโ€ฆ (1/3)

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                            We have fewer police on the roads
                            We have fewer doctors
                            We have very expensive dental care
                            We have to retire later
                            Hate is widespread
                            Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                            Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                            Food quality is falling
                            Energy costs are rising
                            Beaches and rivers are polluted
                            Weaker policing (uk)
                            Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                            The rich are getting richer
                            We now have โ€œworking poorโ€.
                            World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                            @alex_p_roe Public transport is ceasing to exist. Buses and trains are obviously far more efficient than cars but conservatives hate them because they aren't individual, and have made them so much more expensive than they need to be.

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                              We have fewer police on the roads
                              We have fewer doctors
                              We have very expensive dental care
                              We have to retire later
                              Hate is widespread
                              Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                              Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                              Food quality is falling
                              Energy costs are rising
                              Beaches and rivers are polluted
                              Weaker policing (uk)
                              Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                              The rich are getting richer
                              We now have โ€œworking poorโ€.
                              World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                              @alex_p_roe some call it the culture wars... quote from the same man that said that the only "mistake" from Orwell's "1984" was placing in the future a reality that was already here (the book was launched around (1948-1949)....

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                                @alex_p_roe Public transport is ceasing to exist. Buses and trains are obviously far more efficient than cars but conservatives hate them because they aren't individual, and have made them so much more expensive than they need to be.

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                                @PointlessSpike Good point - will add that.

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                                • Alex P RoeA Alex P Roe

                                  We have fewer police on the roads
                                  We have fewer doctors
                                  We have very expensive dental care
                                  We have to retire later
                                  Hate is widespread
                                  Immigrants and migrants are demonised
                                  Well have no jobs and little income in the future
                                  Food quality is falling
                                  Energy costs are rising
                                  Beaches and rivers are polluted
                                  Weaker policing (uk)
                                  Investment in education and training has virtually dried up
                                  The rich are getting richer
                                  We now have โ€œworking poorโ€.
                                  World war 3 is getting ever closer. (2/3)

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                                  @alex_p_roe
                                  The American Dream, 21st century style.
                                  A dream for billionaires, a living nightmare for others.

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                                    @alex_p_roe some call it the culture wars... quote from the same man that said that the only "mistake" from Orwell's "1984" was placing in the future a reality that was already here (the book was launched around (1948-1949)....

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                                    @pookiesorcery Orwell was undoubtedly prescient and no doubt took into consideration the nazi and communist regimes. The USSR at the time resembled Orwellโ€™s big brother. Actually, with todayโ€™s tech, 1984 is getting closer! I donโ€™t think we are quite there yet but events in the US are nudging us ever closer.

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                                      @alex_p_roe
                                      The American Dream, 21st century style.
                                      A dream for billionaires, a living nightmare for others.

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                                      @brouhaha That appears to be where we are headed but they may well be killing the geese that lay their golden eggs ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                        @brouhaha That appears to be where we are headed but they may well be killing the geese that lay their golden eggs ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                        @alex_p_roe
                                        The billionaires believe that by investing hundreds of billions of dollars into AI research, that they will get AGI that eliminates their dependence on human labor. They want the science fiction post-scarcity economy, but only for themselves. Once the billionaires have AGI, they have no interest in the rest of us, and would gladly eliminate us if we get uppity.

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                                          @alex_p_roe
                                          The billionaires believe that by investing hundreds of billions of dollars into AI research, that they will get AGI that eliminates their dependence on human labor. They want the science fiction post-scarcity economy, but only for themselves. Once the billionaires have AGI, they have no interest in the rest of us, and would gladly eliminate us if we get uppity.

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                                          @alex_p_roe
                                          The fly in their ointment is that they're not going to get AGI for a very long time, if ever. Most of the money is going to LLMs, which are not on a path that leads to any intelligence, let alone AGI. Sam Altman promises otherwise, so they keep throwing money at it, and accelerating the destruction of the ecosphere in the process.

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