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    cruel@programming.dev
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    I took great pains last week to convert a big python project to make it typed. (shoutout to MonkeyType)

    It’s so much nicer to develop now…

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    • V valmond@lemmy.world

      Yeah it’s curious that it hasn’t really undergone some major changes or had some major challengers (except NoSQL I guess).

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      panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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      #27

      It has though

      Window functions were an addition, but more recently struct, json, and array fields with native support. Pipe syntax is getting multiple implementations.

      Match recognize is a whole new standard abstraction of window functions.

      Union by name is being added (fuck union by position).

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      • apfelwoischoppen@lemmy.worldA apfelwoischoppen@lemmy.world

        The NHL banned the use of 00 as a number in the 95-96 season because they claimed their databases couldn’t handle it. They still are fools because this continues to be a banned number to this day.

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        amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
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        (i am old) both my brother and i were number 00 in our younger hockey years. we were goalies, so we got first pick of numbers on all new teams we played on, heheheh.

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        • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

          It has though

          Window functions were an addition, but more recently struct, json, and array fields with native support. Pipe syntax is getting multiple implementations.

          Match recognize is a whole new standard abstraction of window functions.

          Union by name is being added (fuck union by position).

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          valmond@lemmy.world
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          #29

          Isn’t this more like evolution or even just optimisation? I mean it doesn’t seem like a fundamental shift (can be wrong, just checked it out quickly).

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            It is also the bash approach, isn’t it?!

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            allnewtypeface@leminal.space
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            #30

            Also, Tcl (a cute little scripting language from the 90s, best known for giving the world the Tk UI toolkit; it was somewhat Lispy, only under the hood, worked like sh, where everything was a string).

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              katy ✨
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              #31

              make everything a string then cast all data every time you want to use that data in a variable.

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                brashboy@lemmy.world
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                #32

                If it’s not getting used in a mathematical function, I’m making it a string

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                • V valmond@lemmy.world

                  Isn’t this more like evolution or even just optimisation? I mean it doesn’t seem like a fundamental shift (can be wrong, just checked it out quickly).

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                  panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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                  #33

                  Sure, i think its just sql has not had any breaking version changes in like… ever?

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                  • F Frezik

                    I have. I quickly learned not to.

                    Tk is overlooked, though. It’s not pretty, and its approach is archaic, but it’s one of the few GUI toolkits that Just Works on every platform I tried it on with minimum fuss.

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                    lime!
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                    #34

                    having used swing and modern js, i still prefer tk.

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                    • F feyd@programming.dev

                      I fucking love tcl

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                      MigratingApe
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                      #35

                      The almighty
                      package require Expect.
                      The muse of automation.

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                        lime!
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                        #36

                        tcl is pretty fun actually, it’s like bash on steroids.

                        for a preview of the insanity: anything surrounded by "" is a string, with the variable expansion you’d expect. anything surrounded by {} is also a string, but with no expansion. the equivalent in bash is the backtick string. but you don’t need to know that to write tcl. if you approach {} as “code blocks” like in other languages, it just works. reason being that tcl evals everything, constantly, attaching little tags to strings that tells the language how things are used, like “this string is an integer” or “this string is code and here is the result from last time it ran”. it’s madness and, weirdly, robust as hell. Xilinx writes all their tooling in tcl. SQLite started life as a tcl module, and it’s still the only api that is not provided by a plugin.

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                        • kiri (temp)K kiri (temp)

                          Everithing is bytes.

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                          jerkface@lemmy.world
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                          #37

                          … Little Endian or Big Endian?

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                          • C cruel@programming.dev

                            I took great pains last week to convert a big python project to make it typed. (shoutout to MonkeyType)

                            It’s so much nicer to develop now…

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                            jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                            Oh that’s a neat library. Type annotations in python are really nice, and you don’t have to add tooling like when you switch from JS to TS.

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                            • B brashboy@lemmy.world

                              If it’s not getting used in a mathematical function, I’m making it a string

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                              garbagio@lemmy.zip
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                              stoi and atoi got ur back, homie

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                                monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                                Cat type?

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                                • A asperan

                                  It is also the bash approach, isn’t it?!

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                                  monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                                  You can calculate n and n?

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                                  • V valmond@lemmy.world

                                    Just cast it. /s

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                                    Ephera
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                                    I believe, that would mean that any 0 is equivalent to the null pointer, since the null pointer is just memory address 0…

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                                    • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

                                      Sure, i think its just sql has not had any breaking version changes in like… ever?

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                                      valmond@lemmy.world
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                                      Yeah, that’s really one in a kind for such an important feature.

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                                        I believe, that would mean that any 0 is equivalent to the null pointer, since the null pointer is just memory address 0…

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                                        valmond@lemmy.world
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                                        In C that would make sense yes.

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                                        • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

                                          Ah, the SQLite approach!

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                                          unalivejoy
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                                          Me: Puts a boolean into sqlite

                                          Me: Asks for that boolean

                                          SQLite: “Here’s that int you asked for”

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