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  • LadyButterfly she/herL LadyButterfly she/her
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    BlueFootedPetey
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    #27

    Hot dogs are specific type of sandwich. Tacos are a sub genre of sandwich. 🥪🌭🌮

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    • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

      I get the whole “cube rule” thing, but a taco is FOLDED and a hot dog bun is CUT.

      Mechanically these are very different required preparation steps.

      Further, tacos use fried tortillas which are technically cake.

      Hot dogs are not tacos. If you fry a cake, fold it, abc add toppings then that is a taco. When you cut into a bun and add toppings, that’s a sub. Hot dogs are subs, not tacos.

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      wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
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      #28

      While I appreciate the topological approach, I hold to a linguistic and practical reason for a hot dog, as it is usually eaten, not (typically) being a sandwich:

      1. what does it mean for a thing to be “sandwiched”? It means pressed on two sides, held together by the force of that pressure.
      2. what is the difference between a hot dog and a hero/po-boy/sub? Well, heros and po-boys are held together by the bread. You can turn them on their side, and they should not fall apart, because the primary force holding them together is pressure on either side of the bread. Hot dogs, at least in my limited experience, are defined by their toppings, which are placed atop the frankfurter, and held in place by gravity alone.

      As such I give my typology: if the primary force holding your dish together is pressure on two sides from a retaining material? Sandwich. If the primary force holding it together is gravity? That bread is being used as a trencher. As such, most hot dogs, most tacos, bread bowls and other such things are all basically just a version of a bread bowl or bread plate. For this reason, I call them “Trenchers”. Pizza is not primarily held together by gravity or by sandwiching forces, and thus is normally neither of these. Pizza’s primary force maintaining its integrity is the cheese and other sticky things holding onto any toppings. As such, pizza would be equivalent to toast with spread, cheese, and other toppings, similar to garlic bread. All functionally just “adorned breads”.

      So, to reiterate, I don’t disagree that hot dogs can be sandwiches, but in general practice, I do not believe they qualify, much like most tacos do not qualify.

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      • lime!L lime!

        sorry to say it but you’re just subjectively wrong

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        UnhingedFridge
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        Oh fuck yeah, lemme drizzle some balsamic on that

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        • A asteriskeverything@lemmy.world

          Tacos have loose meat

          Those chicken strip tacos are liars.

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          postmortal_pop@lemmy.world
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          #30

          New way burgers are sandwich and they have loose meat.

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            postmortal_pop@lemmy.world
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            Counter arguments, a hotdog is a sausage, the bread is a condament. When you buy hotdogs at the store you’re taking about the pack, when you’re cooking a hotdog, you’re taking about the sausage being cooked. A hotdog on the grill is not in the bun. When you’re eating a hotdog without a bun, you’re still eating a hotdog.

            In the other direction, a hotdog with mustard is still called a hotdog meaning the mustard has no say in the state of the hotdog.

            Furthermore, we have splitlink sandwiches so a sausage as sandwich still needs the sandwich modifier. When I say “hotdog sandwich” it’s bothersome because it conjures the idea of hot dogs between two slices of bread.

            So if a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the bread, and a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the mustard, than the bread plays the same role and becomes a condament for the eating of a hotdog that belongs firmly in the category of sausage.

            Spare points to back this up is taco, chicken taco, fish taco, street taco, all need the modifier “taco”. If I say we’re having fish and serve a tuna taco, I’ve not given you the accurate information. The same goes for wraps, without the “wrap” modifier you get different information. In reverse, we do not ask for a bun to get a hotdog. Following along that line, we have split bun sandwiches which use a bun and are not explicitly hotdogs.

            Lastly, with this information you can order the incredibly cursed, split link split bun sandwich with mustard which presents as a cut hotdog with mustard but is in fact an entirely different thing all together.

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            • edgemaster72@lemmy.worldE edgemaster72@lemmy.world

              If you try to give me a pizza with lettuce on it hands will be thrown (up in the air in disgust)

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              makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world
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              #32

              It’s not my first choice but I fuck with a cheeseburger pizza:

              The lettuce must be added after cooking but it’s a fun crunch

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              • O onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe

                Since when is cake fried?

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                makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world
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                Since the south got ahold of it:

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                • M makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world

                  Since the south got ahold of it:

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                  honytawk@lemmy.zip
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                  #34

                  Damn Australians!

                  Or is it Antarctica?

                  Which south?

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                  • C cheesyfox@lemmy.sdf.org

                    taco is a sandwich too

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                    pat_riot@lemmy.today
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                    I’m here for this!

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                      Hemingways_Shotgun
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                      I will often take two hotdogs, cut them in half longitudinally, and lay those out on two pieces sandwich bread.

                      Ergo…hotdog sandwich.

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                      • A Hemingways_Shotgun

                        I will often take two hotdogs, cut them in half longitudinally, and lay those out on two pieces sandwich bread.

                        Ergo…hotdog sandwich.

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                        but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                        Yes my fat ass has done this and added cheese, making it a cheese dog sandwich

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                        • M makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world

                          Since the south got ahold of it:

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                          but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                          #38

                          Mmmm jizz filled!

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                          • P postmortal_pop@lemmy.world

                            Counter arguments, a hotdog is a sausage, the bread is a condament. When you buy hotdogs at the store you’re taking about the pack, when you’re cooking a hotdog, you’re taking about the sausage being cooked. A hotdog on the grill is not in the bun. When you’re eating a hotdog without a bun, you’re still eating a hotdog.

                            In the other direction, a hotdog with mustard is still called a hotdog meaning the mustard has no say in the state of the hotdog.

                            Furthermore, we have splitlink sandwiches so a sausage as sandwich still needs the sandwich modifier. When I say “hotdog sandwich” it’s bothersome because it conjures the idea of hot dogs between two slices of bread.

                            So if a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the bread, and a hotdog is a hotdog with or without the mustard, than the bread plays the same role and becomes a condament for the eating of a hotdog that belongs firmly in the category of sausage.

                            Spare points to back this up is taco, chicken taco, fish taco, street taco, all need the modifier “taco”. If I say we’re having fish and serve a tuna taco, I’ve not given you the accurate information. The same goes for wraps, without the “wrap” modifier you get different information. In reverse, we do not ask for a bun to get a hotdog. Following along that line, we have split bun sandwiches which use a bun and are not explicitly hotdogs.

                            Lastly, with this information you can order the incredibly cursed, split link split bun sandwich with mustard which presents as a cut hotdog with mustard but is in fact an entirely different thing all together.

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                            WIZARD POPE💫
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                            I will fight you on this.

                            A hotdog is a specific type of soft sausage inside a bun. If you have just the sausage part you would not call that a hotdog (at least not where I live) but a frankfurter (we have a special word for this type of sausage).

                            The bread needs to be a certain shape as well. Long round and thin. Either one where it goes in from the top (sliced by length)

                            like this or pushed in the same way as the longer axis of bread goes like this

                            .

                            If you put it inside two slices of bread you made a frankfurter sandwich. So thus it needs to be the right sausage in the right bread to be considered a hotdog.

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                            • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

                              Yes my fat ass has done this and added cheese, making it a cheese dog sandwich

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                              Hemingways_Shotgun
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                              You get two hotdogs in the time it usually takes to eat one. It’s called efficiency, my friend. We’re visionairies.

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                              • lime!L lime!

                                sorry to say it but you’re just subjectively wrong

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                                WIZARD POPE💫
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                                That aint lettuce though

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                                • D deepfriedchril

                                  Gonna need an explanation on the tortillas. Wikipedia says flatbread.

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                                  but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                                  What’s wild is that tortillas are so varied, Mexicans eat very thin yellow corn, Central Americans like white corn and make them thick, and South Americans just go full anarchy and make em extra fat and call them arepas.

                                  Im partial to the Central American think ones, and if you fill em with cheese and meat you got pupusas

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                                  • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

                                    I get the whole “cube rule” thing, but a taco is FOLDED and a hot dog bun is CUT.

                                    Mechanically these are very different required preparation steps.

                                    Further, tacos use fried tortillas which are technically cake.

                                    Hot dogs are not tacos. If you fry a cake, fold it, abc add toppings then that is a taco. When you cut into a bun and add toppings, that’s a sub. Hot dogs are subs, not tacos.

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                                    prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    tacos use fried tortillas which are technically cake.

                                    Absurd claim

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                                    • LadyButterfly she/herL LadyButterfly she/her
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                                      but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                                      What is a pupusa? Is it a sandwich? But it’s tortilla so is it a taco? A quesadilla? A flavoured fat tortilla? Is it a dorito?

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                                      • A asteriskeverything@lemmy.world

                                        Tacos have loose meat

                                        Those chicken strip tacos are liars.

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                                        prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Sandwiches can have “loose meat” as well. Cheese steak and chopped cheese are two that come to mind.

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                                        • O onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe

                                          And they all qualify as sandwich

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                                          prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                          #46

                                          Only if you eat them in a bun

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