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'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

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  • P philosloppy@lemmy.world

    …or Do Not Play

    way ahead of you there, guy

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    rakonat@lemmy.world
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    Couldn’t have been less interested. Borderlands hasn’t been remotely interesting since 2 and everything since then has been a soulless cash grab.

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      itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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      The reality is you made a game that few will play for several years. You could have made a game that could be playable on most contemporary machines. You didn’t and will now have to suffer from shitty sales due to your inability to understand that the majority of us don’t have the money to spend like you do you out of touch clueless ballsack.

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      • R rakonat@lemmy.world

        Couldn’t have been less interested. Borderlands hasn’t been remotely interesting since 2 and everything since then has been a soulless cash grab.

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        philosloppy@lemmy.world
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        #58

        I played an hour of the first game and that was enough for me, so I’m not exactly their target demo anyways.

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        • P philosloppy@lemmy.world

          I played an hour of the first game and that was enough for me, so I’m not exactly their target demo anyways.

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          rakonat@lemmy.world
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          #59

          First game was just Diablo 2 but FPS with guns. But I can totally respect anyone that didn’t jive with that. The humor was very hit and miss and definitely made but a group of people who insisted they were hilarious.

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          • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

            Holy fuck that is so much worse than I realized it was. What a joke.

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            Goodeye8
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            According to hardware unboxed 4090 at 1440 natively on the badass preset gets an average of 67 FPS. I’m not defending the poor performance of Borderlands 4, it’s definitely ass, I just don’t think we should take insane statements from randos at face value. Always verify performance with reputable sources instead of someone saying something on the web without giving the full picture. Who knows what they’ve done with their computer to get such poor performance.

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            • L lfrith@lemmy.ca

              I don’t think there’s anything that well thought out, and it’s just someone who takes things personally and cant resist blurting out their thoughts.

              Since after what he said my thinking was even if my friends beg me to get the game on discount I wont because of how personally irritated the comments have made me.

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              Rayquetzalcoatl
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              Not casting aspersions towards you personally, but we all know how gamer boycotts go generally. As in, they don’t. People cave and buy the games anyway, once they’re over the initial outrage. This is 100% marketing.

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              • N nikls94@lemmy.world

                Randy Pitchfork looks like a mix of the first second generation employee of blizzard (aka Piratesoftware) and Steve buscemi

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                Galactose
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                Now I can’t unsee this

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                • R rakonat@lemmy.world

                  Couldn’t have been less interested. Borderlands hasn’t been remotely interesting since 2 and everything since then has been a soulless cash grab.

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                  massi1008@lemmy.world
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                  Hard disagree.

                  Pre-Sequel, 3 and Wonderlands have all been great games that I had lots of fun with. I also know I’m going to have upwards of 100 hours of fun with 4. That’s what makes this whole story even more frustrating…

                  But I’m a patient gamer. I played the previous BL games years after they came out. I’ll do the same for this one - not because I can’t afford a 60€ price tag but because articles like this.
                  Sad.

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                    greddan@feddit.org
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                    They’re using a poorly made graphics engine and got scammed into implementing malware into their game.

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                    • P philosloppy@lemmy.world

                      …or Do Not Play

                      way ahead of you there, guy

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                      slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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                      Their games are so bad now that it would be better to not play them.

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                      • B brsrklf@jlai.lu

                        Really? Was that a long time ago?

                        Seems to me he and Gearbox have been in lots of shit for a while now (the infamous USB drive, serious plagiarism accusations when Borderlands did an artistic 180 during development, Alien : Colonial Marines released broken as hell after funneling its funding to make BL2, Duke Nukem Forever…)

                        And every time Pitchford’s (mostly unnecesary) public answer has been terrible.

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                        Frezik
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                        #66

                        As far as DNF goes, it was probably an easy profit for the company. They bought it from 3D Realms and patched it up into something releasable. I doubt they spent a lot on the deal. It didn’t have to sell many copies for them to hit break even.

                        Not a bad business decision, and I’m glad that development story had a definitive ending.

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                        • T thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works

                          I played the hell out of the first Borderlands (including New Game+ across all expansions), but promptly bounced off 2 & Pre-Sequel because it literally just felt like more of the same and I was already sated.

                          BL3 and now BL4 are literally just more of the same, but with ever increasingly more egregious monetisation.

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                          quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works
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                          2 was good because of the Handsome Hack commentary.

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                          • RayquetzalcoatlR Rayquetzalcoatl

                            Not casting aspersions towards you personally, but we all know how gamer boycotts go generally. As in, they don’t. People cave and buy the games anyway, once they’re over the initial outrage. This is 100% marketing.

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                            lfrith@lemmy.ca
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                            Those people buy games regardless. But this feels like a personal challenge of being called out. Like the face popping out and going “yeah I knew you couldn’t resist bitch”. Usually there isn’t that psychological push back being put out there. It’s not needed.

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                              melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                              Guys who wear bowties are not smart, but desperately need people to think they are.

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                              • M melsaskca@lemmy.ca

                                Guys who wear bowties are not smart, but desperately need people to think they are.

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                                abcdqfr@lemmy.world
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                                What french fuckin year is it where ANYONE feels the NEED to wear a bowtie?! You can just wear your boxers as a neckerchief if you like…

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                                • J jessica@discuss.tchncs.de

                                  It’s got Denuvo running

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                                  mushroommunk@lemmy.today
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                                  That’s probably not the cause of the issues here though. Denuvo impacts game performance but not as badly as Borderlands 4 is seeing. The engine they chose has issues even on non denuvo games. It’s an unoptimized mess and then gearbox didn’t optimize any further themselves.

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                                  • M melsaskca@lemmy.ca

                                    Guys who wear bowties are not smart, but desperately need people to think they are.

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                                    omegaman@lemmings.world
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                                    Bowties are fine for formal (social) occasions like weddings and parties. Wearing them around every day is weird. Wearing them to work is (generally) weird.

                                    Committing to wearing them everywhere and STILL buying pre-tied ones and not learning how to tie them yourself all while being a mega douche is cringe af.

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                                    • M melsaskca@lemmy.ca

                                      Guys who wear bowties are not smart, but desperately need people to think they are.

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                                      DacoTaco
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                                      I present to you bill nye as a counter argument

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                                      • S spamfajitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        What’s crazy is how inconsistent the problems seem to be. I’ve got a 4080 Super and a decent processor, and I’m getting 120-140fps with most settings as high as they can go with frame gen on at 1440p. Only crashed once in about 40 hours of gameplay.

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                                        mushroommunk@lemmy.today
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                                        This feels like Halo Infinite all over again.

                                        Oh, you have identical specs and built at the exact same time? Yeah, half of you are going to randomly have issues and half won’t. Enjoy head casing about that.

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                                          InfiniteGlitch
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                                          Never bought any of the Borderlands games and probably never will.

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