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'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

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  • S sunsofold@lemmings.world

    I haven’t played 4, but I played 1, 2, and a bit of the presequel or whatever it was called. They were essentially all the same game. Run, shoot, run, shoot, hear vaguely off-color joke, run, shoot. Is there any particular reason to bother with an overpriced remake of the same old game? Is there a reason for worrying about 4KUHD textures on a game where the aesthetic is cartoony? If you’re a 9 year old who’s never played, and it’s all on mom’s dime, I could see being tricked into buying it by the advertisers, but why is anyone else excited about it?

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    thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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    I played the hell out of the first Borderlands (including New Game+ across all expansions), but promptly bounced off 2 & Pre-Sequel because it literally just felt like more of the same and I was already sated.

    BL3 and now BL4 are literally just more of the same, but with ever increasingly more egregious monetisation.

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    • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

      Of course the borderlands guy would look like that

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      Galactose
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      You ain’t exactly handsome yourself bud😅

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        Galactose
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        Randy needs to get comfy with the fact that he may go broke.
        Do what the doctors in goa (a state in India) did to their health minister. But in this case impact his income & force him to grovel.

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          You ain’t exactly handsome yourself bud😅

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          nikls94@lemmy.world
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          Randy Pitchfork looks like a mix of the first second generation employee of blizzard (aka Piratesoftware) and Steve buscemi

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          • L LiveLM

            Gearbox was been scummy for a while now. Customers can learn to stop giving them money or can keep putting up with this.

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            moonburster@lemmy.world
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            They destroyed the first update for risk of rain 2 when they bought it as well. They kinda made my favourite game a lot worse

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              blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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              The game is grossly overpriced and infected Denuvo malware. Those things are all symptoms of Randy Pitchford being involved. I’ll pass.

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              • C captainblinky@lemmy.myserv.one

                I’m not going to punish the entire development team just because he’s a tool.

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                jimerson
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                I’m enjoying the game. And yeah, a lot of cool folk work there. Sure a few suck, but there are a lot of neat humans that poured their heart into this game.

                I also haven’t had a single issue on a two year old mid-tier laptop so i can’t empathize with the fuss over performance. I’m sure there are older machines out there that wont run it at 1000FPS or whatever.

                At the end of the day, it’s a game. Calm tf down and play something else rather than raise your blood pressure over something so relatively trivial.

                Deep breath people. It’s a game. Support it or don’t. Edginess not required for this decision.

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                • S sunsofold@lemmings.world

                  I haven’t played 4, but I played 1, 2, and a bit of the presequel or whatever it was called. They were essentially all the same game. Run, shoot, run, shoot, hear vaguely off-color joke, run, shoot. Is there any particular reason to bother with an overpriced remake of the same old game? Is there a reason for worrying about 4KUHD textures on a game where the aesthetic is cartoony? If you’re a 9 year old who’s never played, and it’s all on mom’s dime, I could see being tricked into buying it by the advertisers, but why is anyone else excited about it?

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                  madamebisaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  Started with 2, liked it, hated 3, now playing 4 since yesterday with a friend and gameplay wise it has a bunch of changes/improvements. So if someone enjoys the gameplay its good. I mean cod and battlefield and fifa are also nearly the same game every time 😉

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                  • S screen_shatter@lemmy.world

                    Damn I had to look that up cause it seemed unbelievable. I am shocked it reviewed that well. It just seemed so awful to me.

                    Am I so out of touch?? No, the children are.

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                    Cethin
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                    You aren’t out of touch. Even the worst games don’t get that poor of a review. When you job depends on being on their side, it turns out you can’t voice an honest opinion.

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                    • P philosloppy@lemmy.world

                      …or Do Not Play

                      way ahead of you there, guy

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                      rakonat@lemmy.world
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                      Couldn’t have been less interested. Borderlands hasn’t been remotely interesting since 2 and everything since then has been a soulless cash grab.

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                        itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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                        The reality is you made a game that few will play for several years. You could have made a game that could be playable on most contemporary machines. You didn’t and will now have to suffer from shitty sales due to your inability to understand that the majority of us don’t have the money to spend like you do you out of touch clueless ballsack.

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                        • R rakonat@lemmy.world

                          Couldn’t have been less interested. Borderlands hasn’t been remotely interesting since 2 and everything since then has been a soulless cash grab.

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                          philosloppy@lemmy.world
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                          I played an hour of the first game and that was enough for me, so I’m not exactly their target demo anyways.

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                          • P philosloppy@lemmy.world

                            I played an hour of the first game and that was enough for me, so I’m not exactly their target demo anyways.

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                            rakonat@lemmy.world
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                            First game was just Diablo 2 but FPS with guns. But I can totally respect anyone that didn’t jive with that. The humor was very hit and miss and definitely made but a group of people who insisted they were hilarious.

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                            • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

                              Holy fuck that is so much worse than I realized it was. What a joke.

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                              Goodeye8
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                              According to hardware unboxed 4090 at 1440 natively on the badass preset gets an average of 67 FPS. I’m not defending the poor performance of Borderlands 4, it’s definitely ass, I just don’t think we should take insane statements from randos at face value. Always verify performance with reputable sources instead of someone saying something on the web without giving the full picture. Who knows what they’ve done with their computer to get such poor performance.

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                              • L lfrith@lemmy.ca

                                I don’t think there’s anything that well thought out, and it’s just someone who takes things personally and cant resist blurting out their thoughts.

                                Since after what he said my thinking was even if my friends beg me to get the game on discount I wont because of how personally irritated the comments have made me.

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                                Rayquetzalcoatl
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                                Not casting aspersions towards you personally, but we all know how gamer boycotts go generally. As in, they don’t. People cave and buy the games anyway, once they’re over the initial outrage. This is 100% marketing.

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                                • N nikls94@lemmy.world

                                  Randy Pitchfork looks like a mix of the first second generation employee of blizzard (aka Piratesoftware) and Steve buscemi

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                                  Galactose
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                                  Now I can’t unsee this

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                                  • R rakonat@lemmy.world

                                    Couldn’t have been less interested. Borderlands hasn’t been remotely interesting since 2 and everything since then has been a soulless cash grab.

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                                    massi1008@lemmy.world
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                                    Hard disagree.

                                    Pre-Sequel, 3 and Wonderlands have all been great games that I had lots of fun with. I also know I’m going to have upwards of 100 hours of fun with 4. That’s what makes this whole story even more frustrating…

                                    But I’m a patient gamer. I played the previous BL games years after they came out. I’ll do the same for this one - not because I can’t afford a 60€ price tag but because articles like this.
                                    Sad.

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                                      greddan@feddit.org
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                                      They’re using a poorly made graphics engine and got scammed into implementing malware into their game.

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                                      • P philosloppy@lemmy.world

                                        …or Do Not Play

                                        way ahead of you there, guy

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                                        slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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                                        Their games are so bad now that it would be better to not play them.

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                                        • B brsrklf@jlai.lu

                                          Really? Was that a long time ago?

                                          Seems to me he and Gearbox have been in lots of shit for a while now (the infamous USB drive, serious plagiarism accusations when Borderlands did an artistic 180 during development, Alien : Colonial Marines released broken as hell after funneling its funding to make BL2, Duke Nukem Forever…)

                                          And every time Pitchford’s (mostly unnecesary) public answer has been terrible.

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                                          Frezik
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                                          As far as DNF goes, it was probably an easy profit for the company. They bought it from 3D Realms and patched it up into something releasable. I doubt they spent a lot on the deal. It didn’t have to sell many copies for them to hit break even.

                                          Not a bad business decision, and I’m glad that development story had a definitive ending.

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